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主演:若昂·佩德罗·罗德里格斯,保罗·艾米,温菡

类型:电影地区:其它语言:其它年份:2016

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 长篇影评

 1 ) 假设从开放性角度理解?

类似于这类电影,说真的,我不特别能懂,它是宗教、文化、导演意识世界的产物交杂,但是作为一门开放性的电影艺术而言,它其实有多重解读空间!不过我倾向于两个方向:究竟是一场求道转化、信仰归属之旅,还是失去主我人格,鸠占鹊巢的邪教同化之旅?

我们通常说到宗教仪式,不仅在正统宗教里有某些在一种科学式眼光看来匪夷所思的思想(教义)和仪式,在邪教的宗教狂热中会衍生更极端的教义和宗教仪式,这种仪式通常成为一种信仰的桥梁,他们认为通过仪式的转化能够更接近他们的信仰。

相比于正统神学思想,这一部在我看来应该是神学本土化的一种产物,有很强的地域文化色彩,也就是所谓的迷信或者说仪式在里头,我不好去断定这种仪式属于一种正常范畴的仪式,或者是脱离正常的邪异信仰仪式?如果属于前者,显然它是一场正常的求道之路,如果归属后者,显然它是异化的! 因为我不熟悉电影背后信仰文化背景和导演的思想世界,我只能从一个相对客观的角度去假设,一是,电影的男主角是否承担导演思想意志的某种替代?他从观察鸟类(实际上寓意一种科学性行为,也即背离电影所处自然丛林内主流信仰),到遭遇所谓的正统信仰(两个中国女孩)对他的审判,并诡异的令他陷入这样一个仪式的进程中,并最终完成这场仪式转化,获得所谓的自由(似乎是以失去主我人格为代价的自由)...二是,导演是不是在完成一种开放性的讨论,这种陷入宗教形式的自由是否可取?(插一句题外话,我身边世界所见,其实挺多宗教人士,它们更多的实现信仰对自我的替代,而不是一种自我意志的建全和补充。但是人类内心痛苦的源头成为一种不可解的矛盾时,越来越多的人选择用信仰来替换这种根植于内心的痛苦。)电影实际上也可以理解为这样一种论证,即是以自我换取痛苦解脱,从而自由的一场求道,这个过程是中性的,无所谓好坏对错,但它极端的衍化,必然是邪性的。 电影细节层面充满隐喻,这些隐喻层面更多是充满正统神话色彩,也勾连了整部作品复杂的转化进程和主题升华。我不具体去聊,但从仪式的完成,忏悔,与转化,到重生,我还是看到了导演以此来代指一种无神论者向信神者转化的一个过程(指代他自己,或者只是作为一种思想创作),也有类似于阿彼察邦带有某种传统信仰色彩的神秘性创作。 如果要深入去解读这部作品还是需要回归导演文化和信仰逻辑的土壤,寻找他创作的初衷,目的。总而言之,一部挺有特色的高水准佳作,这部作品会挤下李沧东的燃烧进入我这个十年十佳之一!

 2 ) 关于片尾,罹患AIDS的歌手,成双与孤独,and a kind of #Afterlife Happy Ending

节选自

O Ornitólogo – An Interview with João Pedro Rodrigues – August 11, 2016byJeremy Elphick|Locarno Film Festival

Q: There was clearly a lot of sexual undertones and overtones throughout the film, but I felt like there were a lot of allusions to a more politicalpart of that sexuality identity. I’m not sure if I read too much into the part of the story where he has to take these pills to stay well, but yeah, I felt it was referencing AIDS treatments, and with the song at the end, I wasn’t too clear on it but the closing song is a piece that emerged from a certain context.

A: Not really the song, but what it has … The guy who made that song was a pop singer from the 80s in Portugal, and he was also a hairdresser. He was a very flamboyant guy, very weird guy but really great. He was one of the first, I don’t know, cases in Portugal that you knew that he died with AIDS. The song talks about loneliness, basically. It’s called … what is it called in English? Something like the cruising song? It’s about people meeting and not knowing each other being alone and not wanting to be alone.

Q: Did thesemore like political kind of histories fed into how you wrote any part of the work at all or if that was just a coincidence thing that—

A: No, it wasn’t a coincidence because for me, it was … it was also connected with my personal life because he was an important singer for me and when I was growing up. I think these things, they keep up coming and when I thought about the scene and when I shot it, I really felt that song was the ideal song for … in the film, in the end, there’s this happy ending but it’s like an afterlife happy ending, because they die and resurrect several times throughout the film. You don’t really know if it’s real life or not but the song, at the same time, is about being together but being together but being, at the same time, alone. I think in relationships, there’s always that contradiction of … I don’t know. Perhaps I feel it like that, like in homosexual relationships, there’s the fact that you’re with a man and it’s like same gender. We’re looking for something that is the same but at the same time, it’s like you’re looking for an image of your own self. I don’t know. Perhaps it’s also me and perhaps it’s also my age, and so that I … how can I put this? There’s a tone that the song gives that, for me, it’s very truthful to being together and wanting, at the same time, to be alone. I don’t know. I think there’s always this contradiction when you’re together. I thought that it was a really perfect and beautiful way to end the film. I think I gathered everything I’d seen in the competition so far. It was the ending that I was watching and I just like, “This makes complete sense. It’s the way the finish this film,” and it was just such a interesting mixture of feelings to watch it. Because the end went very fast.

 3 ) [Last Film I Watched] The Ornithologist (2016)

English Title: The Ornithologist
Original Title: O Ornitólogo
Year: 2016
Country: Portugal, France, Brazil
Language: Portuguese, English, Mandarin
Genre: Drama
Director/Writer: João Pedro Rodrigues
Cinematography: Rui Poças
Cast:
Paul Hamy
Xelo Cagiao
Han Wen
Chan Suan
João Pedro Rodrigues
Juliane Elting
Rating: 6.5/10




A staunch queer cinema visionary and nonconformist, Portuguese filmmaker João Pedro Rodrigues’ fifth feature beguilingly takes a leap of faith onto a religious theme, a pilgrimage to Saint Anthony of Padua, conspicuously transcribing its story into the existential trials and tribulations of our titular ornithologist Fernando (Hamy), which is also St. Anthony’s birth name, stranded in a modern-day Portuguese waterway and forests.

Fernando, an atheist from the word go, embarks on his stork-scouting journey with gusto and alacrity, and the implication that it is not his first sortie in the area makes his adventure quite up his alley. Few background information is purveyed, other than he is under medication and has a male lover who is caring for him. Contrasting Fernando’s bird-watching/telescopic angle with different bird’s-eye views, it is the modus operandi brings home a numinous frisson of watching and simultaneously being watched, literally sublimates the nature’s gaze with a plethora of wild feathered friends hovering around incessantly through the film. When Fernando’s kayak is upset during the rapids, the story starts to take shape into a multi-layered religious mythology through Fernando’s various real/surreal encounters, garnished with sexual innuendos (undressed and tied-up by two young Chinese female God-bothers, a sadomasochistic position enticing one’s fantasy; the urolagnia experience in the darkness among a contingent of masqueraded roarers), and an in-the-buff dalliance with a deaf-mute shepherd boy named Jesus (Cagiao), which ends in manslaughter, a startling incident but concocted with blasé wantonness.

Conceivably, when one liquidates Jesus, there is nothing but a road to redemption beckons him, Fernando must carry on his mythical transmogrification into a pious St. Antony by dint of his self-inflicted ritual for absolution (that is where symbolic tunnel, tableaux vivants and inscrutable gestures abound), consummated by being dispatched by the alter ego of Jesus, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, if credits must be given to Rodrigues’ wheeze of contemplating a grand mythos within an entrancing temporal sphere, his didactic exegesis is less a merit to be reckoned with.

Leading actor Paul Hamy credibly shoulders on a role which requires boldness and physical exertion, instils his open-faced earthiness into the overlaying mystique and alone-in-the-woods background, which successfully retains Fernando in the cynosure, even when narrative longueur inevitably lurks. Tellingly, the film renders a captivating landscape to those eyes yearning for natural’s majestic design, whether it is the picturesque on the surface or the uncanny residing in the deep, also the foley artists (Nuno Carvalho and Martin Delzescaux) ply their own distinctive aural intrusion to that latter effect: eerie, preternatural and strident. In the end of the day, THE ORNITHOLOGIST is another contrived fable trying to mythicize religion in order to elicit a sense of meta-sanctity of our own existence, but the fruition thuddingly slumps between artsy-fartsy and nonplussing, on top of that, where are the storks, anyway?

suggested companion piece: Alain Guiraudie’s STRANGER BY THE LAKE (2013) 8.4/10.

 4 ) 装逼失败

弱智就不要装高深!很久没看过如此装逼的垃圾了!装个13都不会还在这里扭捏作态。里面两位中国女子连特么中文都讲不明白,是因为朝圣之路太漫长以至于忘了国语吗?卧槽!白瞎了那么好的摄影!不要跟我说什么乱七八糟的寓意深刻,深刻到了肤浅的地步,我看你追《湖畔春光》倒是追不上,给泰剧提鞋倒是有可能!1分,给那些演技被衬托出来的各种鸟!

 5 ) 迷恋“变异”的葡萄牙导演

帕索里尼式的神话寓言,混杂了不少晦涩难懂的宗教隐喻。熟悉这位葡萄牙导演的观众一定不会对本片的主题感到陌生,身份和性别的变异是导演的拿手戏,在他的处女作《幻影》和《在坟场中心呼唤爱情》里已有触及。而这部新片讲述的就是一个男人的变异经历:从无神论者变为皈依的教徒,同性恋意识觉醒,甚至是肉体上的变化,从Fernando变成为Anthony。我对葡萄牙宗教一点都不了解,所以后半段层出不穷的宗教隐喻令我如坠雾里也实属无奈,在森林里的段落浮现出诡秘的神秘主义色彩让我联想到泰国导演阿彼察邦。

不过,最令我感到好奇的是中国元素的融入。导演之前已有两部电影跟中国相关:一部是以China命名的短片,另一部则是关于澳门的实验片。相比起之前两部里面对待中国文化的奇异眼光,这部新作算是放弃了有色眼镜,收起了一贯居高临下的鄙夷态度。我更联想到前年在戛纳出尽风头的《一千零一夜》三部曲里,中国元素的运用更可谓炉火纯青,那同样地也出自另一位葡萄牙导演之手。这也许是美丽的巧合,然而在我看来,更有可能是显示了中国的影响力在不断扩大。随着经济发展和文化传播,越来越多外国人开始学会用正常的眼光来看待中国文化,这也算是一种不可多得的进步。

 6 ) 无题

视角转变加上音乐营造出神秘而超自然的观影氛围,和主题很适合,不断出现的鸟类主观视角和反打表现的人鸟对视画面很吸引人,也传达着人类不过是陆地上生存着的生物的一种这样的观点,某种凌驾于一切之上的力量注视着我们的一举一动,可以轻易看透我们。主角经历种种后选择不理解地去相信,电影也正是这一过程的记录

 短评

东京电影节的热门影片「Ornithologist」,影片怎说先不提,散场以后导演 João Pedro Rodrigues 来做Q&A。有一个日本观众说「可能因为是我是日本人的原因,看到您电影里面的同性场面我都震惊了,请问您借此想表达什么?」导演说「这...那...」

5分钟前
  • demoi
  • 还行

不是看见裸体日光晒就得提阿兰吉罗迪,看见丛林就扯阿彼察邦。这显然更应该是一部十字架电影,虽然表面上它拍的是鸟,但人工呼吸之吻和聋哑人的梗还是深深出卖了它,要认祖归宗的话,个人觉得源头在杜蒙那里。

6分钟前
  • 狄飞惊
  • 还行

年度最猎奇的观影体验,看到有人说像杜蒙,顿时恍然大悟,旧有《情色沙漠》,现有《情色雨林》,宗教符号=性符号。

7分钟前
  • CharlesChou
  • 还行

要不是这男的身材好,我是很难坚持看完一部宗教片的。

12分钟前
  • 傻乐的猫
  • 还行

误入诸神的国度。

17分钟前
  • 颜落寒
  • 还行

影像重叠、人鸟主观镜头转换、阿彼察邦,最后混入了基督教?……基督教神棍还是两个中国女孩?放屁吧!

19分钟前
  • 科林
  • 还行

除了满足观众猎奇心态与口味,不算是好电影。

20分钟前
  • 不良生
  • 较差

我怎么觉得是一个同性恋的自我发现之旅(从中段享受被淋尿开始?)?不管怎样,拍得太忸怩造作了,全程犯困,心疼自己

23分钟前
  • zitsunari
  • 还行

混杂着宗教、同性、感官主义元素的丛林怪奇物语,有些地方导演处理得极其个人化,以至于显得晦涩。

24分钟前
  • hitlike
  • 还行

万物皆有灵,自然即神迹,飛禽走獸如影随,耶穌喜欢男孩子~

25分钟前
  • 峰峰峰峰
  • 还行

鸟类学家的鸟很大。

26分钟前
  • 无非
  • 还行

你被神的使徒营救,死而复生,见证了神祗;你和耶稣交欢,又杀死了他;你被斥责为无神的诅咒,却偏偏得到宗教的庇护。鸟只不过是穿起信仰路上的符号,同性无神论者的信仰之旅才是主题。不要用逻辑思维去思考神性电影,别忘了男主忘了吃药:)男性肉体的展示颇多,美到起飞,有种圣巴斯蒂安的仪式感。

27分钟前
  • LORENZO 洛伦佐
  • 推荐

不明觉厉的信仰寓言。跟“湖畔的陌生人”相比故事走向完全无迹可寻。导演在幽深的自然中沿路撒下宗教神性的面包屑,让人目瞪口呆又嗨得飞起~~~anyway我敬你是神作!(有基督教背景知识再看最好)

28分钟前
  • 同志亦凡人中文站
  • 推荐

4 又一部“野味同志片”,不过跟《保持站立》相同的,导演私人口味之外更多的是对“形而上”的讨论,而且这部要更飞,主人公在与鸟类一个个对称视角切换中一步步由无神论的观察者变成了掌握命运的神。男性身体美的欲盖弥彰,全部闪耀在了臀部细毛中夹杂着的沙粒,与清晨鸟叫中洁白遮羞布下的傲然挺立。

29分钟前
  • 牛腩羊耳朵
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年度脑洞/不知所云片。隐喻啥的太明显了也不算隐喻了,感觉导演也没个重点吧,你们看这片子有以下元素:异域、宗教、跳大神、人与自然、国家地理、花鸟虫鱼、攀岩、游泳、凶杀、搞基(但真没有湖边的陌生人好看)…

31分钟前
  • 米粒
  • 还行

后半段较好吧。第1部分蜘蛛精vs唐三藏,第2部分黑熊精相爱相杀偷袈裟,第3部分狩猎女神戴安娜?第4部分乌鸡国国王起死回生。最终章圣安东尼几分布努埃尔“沙漠中的西蒙”。

34分钟前
  • vivi
  • 较差

葡萄牙宗教形象的当代诠释,也是一个无神论者的信仰之旅,从观鸟到遛鸟最后变成鸟,很飞很好看。

38分钟前
  • 陀螺凡达可
  • 推荐

天啊竟然有人觉得这片不好看!我都爱死了。一个无神论者在信仰丛林里穿行,嗯其实不只是无神,也无cliche无教条,一个简单又无从捉摸的人…各种脑洞大开的设定都在凸显这个无设定的人,多妙啊。而且前1/3鸟的视角镜头,立刻想到希胖的群鸟啊!这是第一个在希胖之后把鸟视角拍得这么剑拔弩张的人。

41分钟前
  • 力荐

又蠢又作自我陶醉版「热带病」,但拿他和邦哥比实在太不尊敬。戴个天狗面具跳大神撒尿那段可入选年度被门夹段落。宗教与原始性冲动滥交至此,在割除观众的大脑之前,请先放过符号吧。

43分钟前
  • 徐若风
  • 较差

3.5;从凝视到被凝视,从无知无畏到化身为神,绿意逶迤的苍茫森林里万灵骚动,一段隐秘的朝圣之旅与心灵冥想;黑处有恶灵(心结),亮处有大洪水之后的白鸽(鸽眼视角=上帝视角),望远镜视线构图,丢弃身份,耶稣肉身引渡,终成圣安东尼。

46分钟前
  • 欢乐分裂
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